Discussion:
Deliver Cleaned Messages = yes (bypasses spam engine)
Shawn Iverson
2014-01-27 22:48:00 UTC
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Is there a way to configure MailScanner so that Deliver Cleaned Messages still get checked as spam and not blindly delivered without spam checks?


Shawn Iverson
Rush County Schools
District Technology Coordinator
iversons at rushville.k12.in.us
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Jerry Benton
2014-01-27 23:46:01 UTC
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Shawn,

Why would you want to have an email delivered that arrived with a virus
attached to it in the first place? I cannot think of any circumstance
where you would want to. Keep in mind that viruses are not "bad files".
For example, a .exe (if not allowed by your policy) would be a bad file.
Not a virus.

Jerry Benton
www.mailborder.com
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Shawn Iverson
2014-01-28 01:37:46 UTC
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Spam can have viruses attached. Just because it has a virus, and the virus is removed, doesn't mean that the email itself should be delivered without checking against the spam engine. That is what is happening. The virus is removed, and the email is delivered without a spam score.


Shawn Iverson
Rush County Schools
District Technology Coordinator
iversons at rushville.k12.in.us
Jerry Benton <jerry.benton at mailborder.com> 1/27/2014 6:46 PM >>>
Shawn,

Why would you want to have an email delivered that arrived with a virus attached to it in the first place? I cannot think of any circumstance where you would want to. Keep in mind that viruses are not "bad files". For example, a .exe (if not allowed by your policy) would be a bad file. Not a virus.

Jerry Benton
www.mailborder.com






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Michael Huntley
2014-01-28 02:13:37 UTC
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Shawn,

do you have Spam Checks = yes in MailScanner.conf?

Cheers,

Michael Huntley
Post by Shawn Iverson
Spam can have viruses attached. Just because it has a virus, and the
virus is removed, doesn't mean that the email itself should be delivered
without checking against the spam engine. That is what is happening.
The virus is removed, and the email is delivered without a spam score.
Shawn Iverson
Rush County Schools
District Technology Coordinator
iversons at rushville.k12.in.us <mailto:iversons at rushville.k12.in.us>
Jerry Benton <jerry.benton at mailborder.com> 1/27/2014 6:46 PM >>>
Shawn,
Why would you want to have an email delivered that arrived with a virus
attached to it in the first place? I cannot think of any circumstance
where you would want to. Keep in mind that viruses are not "bad files".
For example, a .exe (if not allowed by your policy) would be a bad file.
Not a virus.
Jerry Benton
www.mailborder.com
Shawn Iverson
2014-01-28 04:06:50 UTC
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yes


Shawn Iverson
Rush County Schools
District Technology Coordinator
iversons at rushville.k12.in.us
Post by Shawn Iverson
Michael Huntley <michael at huntley.net> 1/27/2014 9:13 PM >>>
Shawn,

do you have Spam Checks = yes in MailScanner.conf?

Cheers,

Michael Huntley
Post by Shawn Iverson
Spam can have viruses attached. Just because it has a virus, and the
virus is removed, doesn't mean that the email itself should be delivered
without checking against the spam engine. That is what is happening.
The virus is removed, and the email is delivered without a spam score.
Shawn Iverson
Rush County Schools
District Technology Coordinator
iversons at rushville.k12.in.us <mailto:iversons at rushville.k12.in.us>
Jerry Benton <jerry.benton at mailborder.com> 1/27/2014 6:46 PM >>>
Shawn,
Why would you want to have an email delivered that arrived with a virus
attached to it in the first place? I cannot think of any circumstance
where you would want to. Keep in mind that viruses are not "bad files".
For example, a .exe (if not allowed by your policy) would be a bad file.
Not a virus.
Jerry Benton
www.mailborder.com
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Jerry Benton
2014-01-28 05:15:33 UTC
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Shawn,

I think you missed my point. Set:

Deliver Cleaned Messages = no

As it is very unlikely that you are going to find an email that is not
spam that accidentally had a virus attached by someone.

I have checked some logs and all checks stop once a virus is found.
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www.mailborder.com
Shawn Iverson <mailto:IversonS at rushville.k12.in.us>
January 28, 2014 at 5:06 AM
yes
Shawn Iverson
Rush County Schools
District Technology Coordinator
iversons at rushville.k12.in.us <mailto:iversons at rushville.k12.in.us>
Post by Shawn Iverson
Michael Huntley <michael at huntley.net> 1/27/2014 9:13 PM >>>
Shawn,
do you have Spam Checks = yes in MailScanner.conf?
Cheers,
Michael Huntley
Post by Shawn Iverson
Spam can have viruses attached. Just because it has a virus, and the
virus is removed, doesn't mean that the email itself should be delivered
without checking against the spam engine. That is what is happening.
The virus is removed, and the email is delivered without a spam score.
Shawn Iverson
Rush County Schools
District Technology Coordinator
iversons at rushville.k12.in.us <mailto:iversons at rushville.k12.in.us>
Jerry Benton <jerry.benton at mailborder.com> 1/27/2014 6:46 PM >>>
Shawn,
Why would you want to have an email delivered that arrived with a virus
attached to it in the first place? I cannot think of any circumstance
where you would want to. Keep in mind that viruses are not "bad files".
For example, a .exe (if not allowed by your policy) would be a bad file.
Not a virus.
Jerry Benton
www.mailborder.com
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This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by
E.F.A. Project, and is believed to be clean.
Click here to report this message as spam.
https://efa.rushville.k12.in.us/cgi-bin/learn-msg.cgi?id=8F2CB8150F.A24E6&token=4388421183ea48fb12a1107b937fa403
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Michael Huntley <mailto:michael at huntley.net>
January 28, 2014 at 3:13 AM
Shawn,
do you have Spam Checks = yes in MailScanner.conf?
Cheers,
Michael Huntley
Shawn Iverson <mailto:IversonS at rushville.k12.in.us>
January 28, 2014 at 2:37 AM
Spam can have viruses attached. Just because it has a virus, and the
virus is removed, doesn't mean that the email itself should be
delivered without checking against the spam engine. That is what is
happening. The virus is removed, and the email is delivered without a
spam score.
Shawn Iverson
Rush County Schools
District Technology Coordinator
iversons at rushville.k12.in.us <mailto:iversons at rushville.k12.in.us>
Post by Shawn Iverson
Jerry Benton <jerry.benton at mailborder.com> 1/27/2014 6:46 PM >>>
Shawn,
Why would you want to have an email delivered that arrived with a
virus attached to it in the first place? I cannot think of any
circumstance where you would want to. Keep in mind that viruses are
not "bad files". For example, a .exe (if not allowed by your policy)
would be a bad file. Not a virus.
Jerry Benton
www.mailborder.com
Jerry Benton <mailto:jerry.benton at mailborder.com>
January 28, 2014 at 12:46 AM
Shawn,
Why would you want to have an email delivered that arrived with a
virus attached to it in the first place? I cannot think of any
circumstance where you would want to. Keep in mind that viruses are
not "bad files". For example, a .exe (if not allowed by your policy)
would be a bad file. Not a virus.
Jerry Benton
www.mailborder.com
Shawn Iverson <mailto:IversonS at rushville.k12.in.us>
January 27, 2014 at 11:48 PM
Is there a way to configure MailScanner so that Deliver Cleaned
Messages still get checked as spam and not blindly delivered without
spam checks?
Shawn Iverson
Rush County Schools
District Technology Coordinator
iversons at rushville.k12.in.us <mailto:iversons at rushville.k12.in.us>
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Shawn Iverson
2014-01-28 05:34:10 UTC
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Jerry,

Thanks for the clarification.

I will do this. This makes sense.


Shawn Iverson
Rush County Schools
District Technology Coordinator
iversons at rushville.k12.in.us
Jerry Benton <jerry.benton at mailborder.com> 1/28/2014 12:15 AM >>>
Shawn,

I think you missed my point. Set:

Deliver Cleaned Messages = no

As it is very unlikely that you are going to find an email that is not spam that accidentally had a virus attached by someone.

I have checked some logs and all checks stop once a virus is found.
--
Jerry Benton
www.mailborder.com

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