Packages are the way to go...
Post by Glenn SteenSpeaking as another +40 yo, with a (broad) unix/linux background,
tarballs are fine if you like to tinker, but there is an element of
"ease" that is highly compelling with "packaged systems"... I like
Ubuntu on my desktop, Suse on my virtual apps and CentOS on my servers
(at least... That's fairly easy to get the PHB to agree to)... The
alternatives, in my world, are spelled windoze and bought appliances,
not built from source distros;-)
That was all fine for... The early days of linux...:-)
Having said that, everyone has their own reality... And using
MailScanner on for example CentoOS isn't a perfect fit when things
aren't in your favorite repos, the SA isn't new enough on the latedt
distro release etc... Hence this thread;-)
Some of the things Phil tipped me anout (pull 29/30) seem to have been
folded into the latest,so was less of a hassle than expected. Had to
resort to CPAN for a very limited set of perl modules. Other than
that, most things work ok, despite the shift from SYSV-style init
scripts to systemd (that was... Interresting...:-). Working eith
git/github turned out to be somewhat akin to working with any source
code revision and control system, not that difficult, just a tad
different;-).
For the past couple of weeks, in running production on this setup
(CentOS 7, standalone machine ( hp g7 IIRC, with lots of RAM... Used
to be an ESXi host)). Works like a charm!
Cheers!
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Den 15 sep 2014 02:29 skrev "Mogens Melander" <mogens at fumlersoft.dk
Well,
"Why did tarballs fall out of grace?" Sorry for the following ...
When you delegate all the difficult stuff to the maintainers,
of whatever OS you're running on your hardware, so you can
focus on doing, whatever you wanted your software to do.
Me, I'm on slackware variants, and nobody supports that, so I
have to change/patch all those packages going out to you
lazy guys, expecting software coming updated, specially for
your choice of hardware/OS combination.
Pretty much all important software, running on my servers, I
have made build scripts, to compile compliant install packages,
to install in the tool chain. Zenwalk not being maintained
anymore, I'm moving my servers to Salix, going back to where
I started. Slackware. There is no possible way to upgrade
my old server/kernel with out sending someone to do it hands on.
So, Zenwalk is out, and Slackware is back in.
Basically, what I'm saying. I'm not alone, being older than 40,
maintaining servers that has been running for more than 1780
days, without a single reboot. Patches/upgrades are done online,
on running production systems.
And that's why tarballs are not in grace. They are used by the
original linux distributions.
This is my personal thinking, after a long night of hard drinking,
"Why did tarballs fall out of grace?"
Peace.
Post by Remco BarendseSo far, i did not manage to become friends with github (yet?).
Hope that
Post by Remco Barendsesometime there will be a small (maintained) website with info on
how to
Post by Remco Barendsepull the latest stable version from github and install from that.
(Why did tarballs fall out of grace?)
Cheers!
Post by Randal, PhilMailScanner - latest release plus updated updated TNEF.pm from Git
(https://github.com/MailScanner/v4/pull/29) and my phishing
filter fix (
Post by Remco BarendsePost by Randal, Philhttps://github.com/MailScanner/v4/pull/30)
https://github.com/MailScanner/v4/commit/0b59afc1dde177150331248179d64d12820512c8
Post by Remco BarendsePost by Randal, Phil(uses IO::Pipe instead of IO)
MailWatch - latest from Git (https://github.com/mailwatch/1.2.0)
Cheers,
Phil
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Post by Remco BarendsePost by Randal, PhilSteen
Sent: 08 August 2014 09:39
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Subject: Re: Has anyone tried MailScanner on CentOS 7?
Hi Phil,
As you may remember (or not), I used to use Mandriva for my
servers (up
Post by Remco BarendsePost by Randal, Philuntil the Mandriva/Mageia split), so this sounds ... easy and
straightforward:-). No mixing in CPAN when all else fails;-).
On 7 August 2014 22:08, Randal, Phil
<phil.randal at hoopleltd.co.uk <mailto:phil.randal at hoopleltd.co.uk>>
Post by Remco BarendsePost by Randal, PhilOK, here's a fuller list of what I did to get MailScanner
running on
Post by Remco BarendsePost by Randal, PhilCentOS 7
(snip)
Cheers,
Phil
As said, this all seems quite straightforward, so ... I'll do that
then:-). Which MW install did you use?
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Subject: RE: Has anyone tried MailScanner on CentOS 7?
No,
I didn't try them.
Ok, some fun and games to look forward to then:-).
(snip)>
Only gotcha I had was forgetting to ensure that /etc/hosts had a
correct entry for the host in it. They joys of cloning VMs and
forgetting the little details.
Isn't it a bitch, progress:-):-). Do you use any prebuilt VM,
or rolled
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