Bounces from Yahoo

[Kevin Miller]

Every now and then, my users will send to Yahoo and the mail bounces. The cause is duplicate subject headers.

***@yahoo.com on 12/1/2014 3:52 PM
Diagnostic code = NoDiagnostic; Reason code = TransferFailed; Status code = 500
<mta7.am0.yahoodns.net #5.0.0 SMTP; 554 Message not allowed - Headers are not RFC compliant[291]>

There's a similar thread over in the Baruwa neighborhood, but apparently it's a MailScanner bug. They mention a fix over there but I don't know that it's made it to github for MailScanner yet.

http://baruwa-users-list.963389.n3.nabble.com/Yahoo-Headers-are-not-RFC-compliant-td4027435.html

Anyone else having this issue? Any patch files out for it?

Running on:
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This is CentOS release 5.11 (Final)
This is Perl version 5.008008 (5.8.8)

This is MailScanner version 4.84.5

...Kevin
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[Jeremy McSpadden]

The reason is double subject lines.

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On Dec 2, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Kevin Miller <***@juneau.org<mailto:***@juneau.org>> wrote:

Every now and then, my users will send to Yahoo and the mail bounces. The cause is duplicate subject headers.

***@yahoo.com<mailto:***@yahoo.com> on 12/1/2014 3:52 PM
Diagnostic code = NoDiagnostic; Reason code = TransferFailed; Status code = 500
<mta7.am0.yahoodns.net<http://mta7.am0.yahoodns.net> #5.0.0 SMTP; 554 Message not allowed - Headers are not RFC compliant[291]>

There's a similar thread over in the Baruwa neighborhood, but apparently it's a MailScanner bug. They mention a fix over there but I don't know that it's made it to github for MailScanner yet.

http://baruwa-users-list.963389.n3.nabble.com/Yahoo-Headers-are-not-RFC-compliant-td4027435.html

Anyone else having this issue? Any patch files out for it?

Running on:
Linux smtp.ci.juneau.ak.us<http://smtp.ci.juneau.ak.us> 2.6.18-398.el5 #1 SMP Tue Sep 16 20:50:52 EDT 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
This is CentOS release 5.11 (Final)
This is Perl version 5.008008 (5.8.8)

This is MailScanner version 4.84.5

...Kevin
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[Jeremy McSpadden]

Oops. Didn't see you said that already.

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On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:00 PM, Jeremy McSpadden <***@fluxlabs.net<mailto:***@fluxlabs.net>> wrote:

The reason is double subject lines.

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On Dec 2, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Kevin Miller <***@juneau.org<mailto:***@juneau.org>> wrote:

Every now and then, my users will send to Yahoo and the mail bounces. The cause is duplicate subject headers.

***@yahoo.com<mailto:***@yahoo.com> on 12/1/2014 3:52 PM
Diagnostic code = NoDiagnostic; Reason code = TransferFailed; Status code = 500
<mta7.am0.yahoodns.net<http://mta7.am0.yahoodns.net> #5.0.0 SMTP; 554 Message not allowed - Headers are not RFC compliant[291]>

There's a similar thread over in the Baruwa neighborhood, but apparently it's a MailScanner bug. They mention a fix over there but I don't know that it's made it to github for MailScanner yet.

http://baruwa-users-list.963389.n3.nabble.com/Yahoo-Headers-are-not-RFC-compliant-td4027435.html

Anyone else having this issue? Any patch files out for it?

Running on:
Linux smtp.ci.juneau.ak.us<http://smtp.ci.juneau.ak.us> 2.6.18-398.el5 #1 SMP Tue Sep 16 20:50:52 EDT 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
This is CentOS release 5.11 (Final)
This is Perl version 5.008008 (5.8.8)

This is MailScanner version 4.84.5

...Kevin
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[Rick Cooper]

This was supposedly addressed in 2009 by Jules see:
http://lists.mailscanner.info/pipermail/mailscanner/2009-September/093185.ht
ml

But that was exim specific, what MTA is involved here?

Rick

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McSpadden
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 2:50 PM
To: MailScanner discussion
Subject: Re: Bounces from Yahoo


The reason is double subject lines.

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On Dec 2, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Kevin Miller <***@juneau.org> wrote:



Every now and then, my users will send to Yahoo and the mail bounces. The
cause is duplicate subject headers.

***@yahoo.com on 12/1/2014 3:52 PM
Diagnostic code = NoDiagnostic; Reason code = TransferFailed;
Status code = 500
<mta7.am0.yahoodns.net #5.0.0 SMTP; 554 Message not allowed -
Headers are not RFC compliant[291]>

There's a similar thread over in the Baruwa neighborhood, but apparently
it's a MailScanner bug. They mention a fix over there but I don't know that
it's made it to github for MailScanner yet.

http://baruwa-users-list.963389.n3.nabble.com/Yahoo-Headers-are-not-RFC-comp
liant-td4027435.html

Anyone else having this issue? Any patch files out for it?

Running on:
Linux smtp.ci.juneau.ak.us 2.6.18-398.el5 #1 SMP Tue Sep 16 20:50:52 EDT
2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
This is CentOS release 5.11 (Final)
This is Perl version 5.008008 (5.8.8)

This is MailScanner version 4.84.5

...Kevin
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Juneau, Alaska 99801
Phone: [phone], Fax: [phone]
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[Kevin Miller]

In my case, sendmail.

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From: mailscanner-***@lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:mailscanner-***@lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Rick Cooper
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:07 AM
To: 'MailScanner discussion'
Subject: RE: Bounces from Yahoo

This was supposedly addressed in 2009 by Jules see:
http://lists.mailscanner.info/pipermail/mailscanner/2009-September/093185.html

But that was exim specific, what MTA is involved here?

Rick

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Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 2:50 PM
To: MailScanner discussion
Subject: Re: Bounces from Yahoo
The reason is double subject lines.

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On Dec 2, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Kevin Miller <***@juneau.org<mailto:***@juneau.org>> wrote:
Every now and then, my users will send to Yahoo and the mail bounces. The cause is duplicate subject headers.

***@yahoo.com<mailto:***@yahoo.com> on 12/1/2014 3:52 PM
Diagnostic code = NoDiagnostic; Reason code = TransferFailed; Status code = 500
<mta7.am0.yahoodns.net<http://mta7.am0.yahoodns.net> #5.0.0 SMTP; 554 Message not allowed - Headers are not RFC compliant[291]>

There's a similar thread over in the Baruwa neighborhood, but apparently it's a MailScanner bug. They mention a fix over there but I don't know that it's made it to github for MailScanner yet.

http://baruwa-users-list.963389.n3.nabble.com/Yahoo-Headers-are-not-RFC-compliant-td4027435.html

Anyone else having this issue? Any patch files out for it?

Running on:
Linux smtp.ci.juneau.ak.us<http://smtp.ci.juneau.ak.us> 2.6.18-398.el5 #1 SMP Tue Sep 16 20:50:52 EDT 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
This is CentOS release 5.11 (Final)
This is Perl version 5.008008 (5.8.8)

This is MailScanner version 4.84.5

...Kevin
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[Rick Cooper]

Looking through the code I kind of wonder if this is an uninteded
consequence of the MailScanner.conf line:
Place New Headers At Top Of Message
How is yours set?

The ReplaceHeader function does not do a delete if that options is set to
yes near as I can tell by
# DKIM: Don't do DeleteHeader if only adding headers at top
$this->DeleteHeader($message, $key) unless $message->{dkimfriendly};


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From: mailscanner-***@lists.mailscanner.info
[mailto:mailscanner-***@lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Kevin
Miller
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:19 PM
To: 'MailScanner discussion'
Subject: RE: Bounces from Yahoo



In my case, sendmail.



...Kevin
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Juneau, Alaska 99801
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Registered Linux User No: 307357



From: mailscanner-***@lists.mailscanner.info
[mailto:mailscanner-***@lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Rick Cooper
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:07 AM
To: 'MailScanner discussion'
Subject: RE: Bounces from Yahoo



This was supposedly addressed in 2009 by Jules see:

http://lists.mailscanner.info/pipermail/mailscanner/2009-September/093185.ht
ml



But that was exim specific, what MTA is involved here?



Rick



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From: mailscanner-***@lists.mailscanner.info
[mailto:mailscanner-***@lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Jeremy
McSpadden
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 2:50 PM
To: MailScanner discussion
Subject: Re: Bounces from Yahoo

The reason is double subject lines.

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On Dec 2, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Kevin Miller <***@juneau.org> wrote:

Every now and then, my users will send to Yahoo and the mail bounces. The
cause is duplicate subject headers.

***@yahoo.com on 12/1/2014 3:52 PM
Diagnostic code = NoDiagnostic; Reason code = TransferFailed;
Status code = 500
<mta7.am0.yahoodns.net #5.0.0 SMTP; 554 Message not allowed -
Headers are not RFC compliant[291]>

There's a similar thread over in the Baruwa neighborhood, but apparently
it's a MailScanner bug. They mention a fix over there but I don't know that
it's made it to github for MailScanner yet.

http://baruwa-users-list.963389.n3.nabble.com/Yahoo-Headers-are-not-RFC-comp
liant-td4027435.html

Anyone else having this issue? Any patch files out for it?

Running on:
Linux smtp.ci.juneau.ak.us 2.6.18-398.el5 #1 SMP Tue Sep 16 20:50:52 EDT
2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
This is CentOS release 5.11 (Final)
This is Perl version 5.008008 (5.8.8)

This is MailScanner version 4.84.5

...Kevin
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[Kevin Miller]

Mine are set to the top. I don't have DKIM set up however. Not sure if that matters.

I don't think I've ever changed that and have been running MailScanner since 2003 or so. It's only become an issue for us recently.


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[Glenn Steen]

Hi Kevin!

Well, If you don't need to reorder the headers, why not try change
that setting?;-)

And I wounder... Do you use Baruwa? Their MailScanner isn't
"MailScanner" as such, it is Baruwa MailScanner... Over the years
we've had a few "forks", and well... One need ask these things, to
clear up if the error is present in the current plain-vanilla code:-)

Cheers
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On 2 December 2014 at 23:19, Kevin Miller <***@juneau.org> wrote:
> Mine are set to the top. I don't have DKIM set up however. Not sure if that matters.
>
> I don't think I've ever changed that and have been running MailScanner since 2003 or so. It's only become an issue for us recently.
>
>
> ...Kevin
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[Kevin Miller]

It's worth a shot I guess.

I don't use Baruwa - that was just where we found a similar symptom reported. Rick noted that there was a similar issue for exim from 2009. Baruwa uses exim IIRC so maybe it was a lingering bug that Julian fixed part of and the other part was more subtle?

I run a pretty much plain vanilla MailScanner, with MailWatch. I tried Baruwa but had issues getting it running (which I now forget) and didn't really want to learn exim so I cut my losses and bailed on that.

Some of my users have a bad habit of using their company email for personal stuff (institutionally we don't really care) but may try forwarding stuff so this gives me pause:
# So if some of your users forward mail from PayPal, Ebay or Yahoo! to
# accounts stored on Gmail or Googlemail, then you need to set this to "yes"
# and "Multiple Headers = add" to avoid breaking the DKIM signature.

On the other hand, if it is personal stuff I don't have any particular obligation to make it work. There may be times though that they need to forward business related mail. I guess we'll see.

I'll apply these changes and see what happens.

#mkm Multiple Headers = add
Multiple Headers = append

#mkm Place New Headers At Top Of Message = yes
Place New Headers At Top Of Message = no

Unfortunately, we can't duplicate the problem at will. It just happens sometimes...

...Kevin
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailscanner-***@lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:mailscanner-
> ***@lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Glenn Steen
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:50 PM
> To: MailScanner discussion
> Subject: Re: Bounces from Yahoo
>
> Hi Kevin!
>
> Well, If you don't need to reorder the headers, why not try change that
> setting?;-)
>
> And I wounder... Do you use Baruwa? Their MailScanner isn't
> "MailScanner" as such, it is Baruwa MailScanner... Over the years we've
> had a few "forks", and well... One need ask these things, to clear up if
> the error is present in the current plain-vanilla code:-)
>
> Cheers
> --
> -- Glenn
>
>
> On 2 December 2014 at 23:19, Kevin Miller <***@juneau.org>
> wrote:
> > Mine are set to the top. I don't have DKIM set up however. Not sure
> if that matters.
> >
> > I don't think I've ever changed that and have been running MailScanner
> since 2003 or so. It's only become an issue for us recently.
> >
> >
> > ...Kevin
> > --
> > Kevin Miller
> > Network/email Administrator, CBJ MIS Dept.
> > 155 South Seward Street
> > Juneau, Alaska 99801
> > Phone: [phone], Fax: [phone]
> > Registered Linux User No: 307357
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[Andrew Colin Kissa]

On 03 Dec 2014, at 8:50 PM, Kevin Miller <***@juneau.org> wrote:

> Unfortunately, we can't duplicate the problem at will. It just happens sometimes…

A simple way to trigger it with Exim i found was to have space before the subject text.

[Jeremy McSpadden]

Baruwa Community uses sources from mailscanner.info for its install guide.

Baruwa Enterprise has a patched/modified version of MS only available to paid.

Andrew from the Baruwa Project has supplied me with the patch necessary to fix the issue. Can anyone get this added ? I will supply to whoever needs it.

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On Dec 3, 2014, at 2:50 AM, Glenn Steen <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Kevin!

Well, If you don't need to reorder the headers, why not try change
that setting?;-)

And I wounder... Do you use Baruwa? Their MailScanner isn't
"MailScanner" as such, it is Baruwa MailScanner... Over the years
we've had a few "forks", and well... One need ask these things, to
clear up if the error is present in the current plain-vanilla code:-)

Cheers
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[Steve Freegard]

On 04/12/14 16:23, Jeremy McSpadden wrote:
> Baruwa Enterprise has a patched/modified version of MS only available to
> paid.

Um - isn't that a violation of the GPL? Any modifications to code that
is part of MailScanner should have the sources available to anyone that
requests it (typically it's easiest to put patches up on a website
though, to avoid CD requests).

At FSL we made a point of contributing anything we did to MailScanner
back to the community; like ConfigSQL which I expect Baruwa uses.

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[Jeremy McSpadden]

I believe you also have a private RPM build /repo that is only available to paid customers ? I believe that's all they have done.

I will upload the patch and post shortly.
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On Dec 4, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Steve Freegard <***@fsl.com<mailto:***@fsl.com>> wrote:

On 04/12/14 16:23, Jeremy McSpadden wrote:
Baruwa Enterprise has a patched/modified version of MS only available to
paid.

Um - isn't that a violation of the GPL? Any modifications to code that
is part of MailScanner should have the sources available to anyone that
requests it (typically it's easiest to put patches up on a website
though, to avoid CD requests).

At FSL we made a point of contributing anything we did to MailScanner
back to the community; like ConfigSQL which I expect Baruwa uses.

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[Kevin Miller]

> I will upload the patch and post shortly.

Thanks Jeremy. Is it exim specific or more generic?

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[Andrew Colin Kissa]

On 05 Dec 2014, at 1:02 AM, Kevin Miller <***@juneau.org> wrote:

> Thanks Jeremy. Is it exim specific or more generic?

It may work with other MTA's but only tested with Exim, Exim's header changes
work differently from other MTA's as MailScanner just adds a flag to the -H file
and Exim it self deletes the header.

[Andrew Colin Kissa]

On 05 Dec 2014, at 12:35 AM, Steve Freegard <***@fsl.com> wrote:

> Um - isn't that a violation of the GPL? Any modifications to code that
> is part of MailScanner should have the sources available to anyone that
> requests it (typically it's easiest to put patches up on a website
> though, to avoid CD requests).
>
> At FSL we made a point of contributing anything we did to MailScanner
> back to the community; like ConfigSQL which I expect Baruwa uses.

Just to clarify, most of our changes are not compatible with mailscanner proper,
for example we have no interest in any other MTA apart from Exim thus we have
stripped all that code out. We have code in to hook up search indexing which too
would not be compatible.

All other changes that are compatible we have pushed to Github. At no point have
we withheld our changes from anyone who has requested them.

As stated on the Baruwa mailing list anyone is welcome to request our tree and
shift through it and pull out whatever they want to and incorporate in mailscanner
proper. I just do not have the time to do it right now.

- Andrew

[Jerry Benton]

Yes, I can add it.

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> On Dec 4, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Jeremy McSpadden <***@fluxlabs.net> wrote:
>
> Baruwa Community uses sources from mailscanner.info for its install guide.
>
> Baruwa Enterprise has a patched/modified version of MS only available to paid.
>
> Andrew from the Baruwa Project has supplied me with the patch necessary to fix the issue. Can anyone get this added ? I will supply to whoever needs it.
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>> On Dec 3, 2014, at 2:50 AM, Glenn Steen <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kevin!
>>
>> Well, If you don't need to reorder the headers, why not try change
>> that setting?;-)
>>
>> And I wounder... Do you use Baruwa? Their MailScanner isn't
>> "MailScanner" as such, it is Baruwa MailScanner... Over the years
>> we've had a few "forks", and well... One need ask these things, to
>> clear up if the error is present in the current plain-vanilla code:-)
>>
>> Cheers
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[Rick Cooper]

Kevin Miller wrote:
> Mine are set to the top. I don't have DKIM set up however. Not sure
> if that matters.
>
> I don't think I've ever changed that and have been running
> MailScanner since 2003 or so. It's only become an issue for us
> recently.
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> ...Kevin
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Doesn't matter if you use DKIM or not, if you don't then there is no reason
to be concerned about maintaining header order as you cannot break the
signature if none exist unless you are forwarding for a system that does
sign their messages. Since this has never occurred for me I have no way to
get an original message but I am wondering, since it always seems to be the
subject that is duplicated, if it has something to do with the subject
rewrite settings, or a syntax issue with the original subject line not
matching the test for delete header
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[Kevin Miller]

> -----Original Message-----
> Doesn't matter if you use DKIM or not, if you don't then there is no
> reason to be concerned about maintaining header order as you cannot break
> the signature if none exist unless you are forwarding for a system that
> does sign their messages. Since this has never occurred for me I have no way
> to get an original message but I am wondering, since it always seems to be
> the subject that is duplicated, if it has something to do with the subject
> rewrite settings, or a syntax issue with the original subject line not
> matching the test for delete header

I just replied to Glenn - going to give it a shot and see what happens. It may break forwarding, but that may or may not be an issue...

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[Kevin Miller]

Yes, I know. Hence the "The cause is duplicate subject headers." in my post. The question is, how do I fix it? Yahoo apparently does something that causes MailScanner to do that. Maybe some mutant grey-list process? I dunno. I can't duplicate it at will - if users wait a while and resend the message will go through, I think because it hits a different ingress server.

Andrew Lissa writes that it's fixed over there: "It is an issue within MailScanner not baruwa, will try get some time to push it into MailScanner proper on Github, since the enterprise MailScanner is a fork it requires some time to do so. Will do that when I get some space time, hands full at the moment."

Be nice to see the patches in MailScanner proper.

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From: mailscanner-***@lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:mailscanner-***@lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Jeremy McSpadden
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 10:50 AM
To: MailScanner discussion
Subject: Re: Bounces from Yahoo

The reason is double subject lines.

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On Dec 2, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Kevin Miller <***@juneau.org<mailto:***@juneau.org>> wrote:
Every now and then, my users will send to Yahoo and the mail bounces. The cause is duplicate subject headers.

***@yahoo.com<mailto:***@yahoo.com> on 12/1/2014 3:52 PM
Diagnostic code = NoDiagnostic; Reason code = TransferFailed; Status code = 500
<mta7.am0.yahoodns.net<http://mta7.am0.yahoodns.net> #5.0.0 SMTP; 554 Message not allowed - Headers are not RFC compliant[291]>

There's a similar thread over in the Baruwa neighborhood, but apparently it's a MailScanner bug. They mention a fix over there but I don't know that it's made it to github for MailScanner yet.

http://baruwa-users-list.963389.n3.nabble.com/Yahoo-Headers-are-not-RFC-compliant-td4027435.html

Anyone else having this issue? Any patch files out for it?

Running on:
Linux smtp.ci.juneau.ak.us<http://smtp.ci.juneau.ak.us> 2.6.18-398.el5 #1 SMP Tue Sep 16 20:50:52 EDT 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
This is CentOS release 5.11 (Final)
This is Perl version 5.008008 (5.8.8)

This is MailScanner version 4.84.5

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[Scott B. Anderson]

I have also seen this error regarding multiple subject headers from some sites. What is the fix?

Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailscanner-***@lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:mailscanner-
> ***@lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Kevin Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 1:12 PM
> To: MailScanner List (***@lists.mailscanner.info)
> Subject: Bounces from Yahoo
>
> Every now and then, my users will send to Yahoo and the mail bounces. The
> cause is duplicate subject headers.
>
> ***@yahoo.com on 12/1/2014 3:52 PM
> Diagnostic code = NoDiagnostic; Reason code = TransferFailed; Status code
> = 500
> <mta7.am0.yahoodns.net #5.0.0 SMTP; 554 Message not allowed - Headers
> are not RFC compliant[291]>
>
> There's a similar thread over in the Baruwa neighborhood, but apparently it's a
> MailScanner bug. They mention a fix over there but I don't know that it's made it
> to github for MailScanner yet.
>
> http://baruwa-users-list.963389.n3.nabble.com/Yahoo-Headers-are-not-RFC-
> compliant-td4027435.html
>
> Anyone else having this issue? Any patch files out for it?
>
> Running on:
> Linux smtp.ci.juneau.ak.us 2.6.18-398.el5 #1 SMP Tue Sep 16 20:50:52 EDT 2014
> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux This is CentOS release 5.11 (Final) This is Perl
> version 5.008008 (5.8.8)
>
> This is MailScanner version 4.84.5
>
> ...Kevin
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