Getting mailscanner into Fedora

Discussion:

Christopher Meng

2013-07-11 09:06:16 UTC

Hi,

I heard that years ago someone had asked or posted some threads about
getting mailscanner in Fedora.

However for unknown reason this finally stopped. So I'm thinking about
if we can do this again.

Things are getting better because more packages are being splited from
one big perl.

I've cleanup the wiki page left years ago
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MailScanner_in_Fedora) and waiting for
your ideas.

Are there any people interested in packaging help?

Thanks.

Yours sincerely,
Christopher Meng

Always playing in Fedora Project

http://cicku.me

Jerry Benton

2013-07-11 10:06:37 UTC

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Chris,

You are probably not going to find too many takers here on Fedora.

Post by Christopher Meng
Hi,
I heard that years ago someone had asked or posted some threads about
getting mailscanner in Fedora.
However for unknown reason this finally stopped. So I'm thinking about
if we can do this again.
Things are getting better because more packages are being splited from
one big perl.
I've cleanup the wiki page left years ago
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MailScanner_in_Fedora) and waiting for
your ideas.
Are there any people interested in packaging help?
Thanks.
Yours sincerely,
Christopher Meng
Always playing in Fedora Project
http://cicku.me
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Phil Hale

2013-07-11 14:53:27 UTC

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If we can get it into Fedora EPEL, that would be ideal for my situation.
I install MailScanner on to of CentOS and use EPEL as one of my
auxiliary repositories.

Phil Hale
Systems Administrator
Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi

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Subject: Re: Getting mailscanner into Fedora
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:06:37 +0200

Chris,

You are probably not going to find too many takers here on Fedora.

On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Christopher Meng <cickumqt at gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi,

I heard that years ago someone had asked or posted some threads
about
getting mailscanner in Fedora.

However for unknown reason this finally stopped. So I'm thinking
about
if we can do this again.

Things are getting better because more packages are being
splited from
one big perl.

I've cleanup the wiki page left years ago
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MailScanner_in_Fedora) and
waiting for
your ideas.

Are there any people interested in packaging help?

Thanks.

Yours sincerely,
Christopher Meng

Always playing in Fedora Project

http://cicku.me
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MailScanner mailing list
mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner

Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting

Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
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Mailborder Systems
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Christopher Meng

2013-07-11 16:57:36 UTC

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I don't know the deps' status in EPEL6.

I'll try building it on Fedora first, IMO the shipped perl modules in
the ms install RPM are too old. Fedora includes newer version of
nearly each of them.

Jerry Benton

2013-07-11 18:38:08 UTC

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newer != better

Just saying.

Post by Christopher Meng
I don't know the deps' status in EPEL6.
I'll try building it on Fedora first, IMO the shipped perl modules in
the ms install RPM are too old. Fedora includes newer version of
nearly each of them.
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M A Young

2013-07-12 09:38:39 UTC

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I believe RHEL/CentOS or EPEL already contain all the dependencies for the
mailscanner rpm (as shipped from mailscanner.info) so you probably just
need to provide the mailscanner rpm. I imagine Fedora is the same.

As others have said I don't think Fedora is a good platform to use
mailscanner on in production, though it is probably okay as a testbed (it
might for example be useful for working out what issues RHEL/CentOS 7
might have with mailscanner).

Michael Young

Christopher Meng

2013-07-12 10:38:22 UTC

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Currently I'm focusing on the deps, all deps in the repo, either in Fedora,
or in EPEL, are newer than the shipped version from ms official package. So
I have to test if ms can work well with newer version deps.

And the main issue is ms itself, I will try to reuse the spec shipped in
the tar ball.

Thank you all.
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Martin Hepworth

2013-07-11 15:23:46 UTC

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true, why use fedora when Centos is also free and much better suited to
being a server
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Post by Jerry Benton
Chris,
You are probably not going to find too many takers here on Fedora.

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Christopher Meng

2013-07-11 18:07:41 UTC

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? 2013-7-12 AM1:25?"Martin Hepworth" <maxsec at gmail.com>???

Post by Martin Hepworth
true, why use fedora when Centos is also free and much better suited to

being a server

This is not a problem of using which operating system...

I just want to get this software directly from yum, thus easy for
maintenance. And pushing one software can extend the user base and its
popularity.

CentOS users can also install it via EPEL if things are done.
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Stephen Swaney

2013-07-11 21:35:20 UTC

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I agree and would never run Fedora on a production server BUT if one or
more Fedora enthusiasts want to create and maintain a Fedora distro of
MailScanner I'm all for it.

After all Fedora is the "Bleeding Edge" version of Red Hat OS, it can't
hurt to have a "Bleeding Edge" version of Mailscanner.

Just my 2p :)

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Post by Martin Hepworth
true, why use fedora when Centos is also free and much better suited
to being a server
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Oxford, UK
On 11 July 2013 11:06, Jerry Benton <jerry.benton at mailborder.com
Chris,
You are probably not going to find too many takers here on Fedora.
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Christopher Meng
Hi,
I heard that years ago someone had asked or posted some threads about
getting mailscanner in Fedora.
However for unknown reason this finally stopped. So I'm thinking about
if we can do this again.
Things are getting better because more packages are being splited from
one big perl.
I've cleanup the wiki page left years ago
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MailScanner_in_Fedora) and waiting for
your ideas.
Are there any people interested in packaging help?
Thanks.
Yours sincerely,
Christopher Meng
Always playing in Fedora Project
http://cicku.me
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Christopher Meng

2013-07-12 06:10:01 UTC

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To Jerry:

I never say newer is better. But the fact is newer things are
appearing more and more now. After doing a searching of each package
ms needed, I found that all these packages have newer version now, and
newer version is now in not only Fedora, but many other distros.

You can enjoy your life with many old systems, like me, also have a
CentOS 5 instance on my server. But I just said I will have a try to
get this famous software borned again in the repos.

I'm just saying, too.

To Stephen Swaney:

Thanks. I want to package it for Fedora because I also want to package
it for EPEL and because EPEL can be configured on RHEL/CentOS servers.
I don't use Fedora as server OS.

I think EPEL is old enough.

Summary: Guys, please spare me. I just want to package a software, I'm
not trying to start an argument here.

Jerry Benton

2013-07-12 07:20:06 UTC

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Chris,

Getting MailScanner into EPEL would be great. I do agree. However, running
a server platform on Fedora is an amazingly bad idea. The software is so
bleeding edge that entirely defeats the purpose of running it on a server
because it is not what you need for a server platform, which is: mature,
stable, secure, and reliable.

So, no, newer does not equal better for servers where critical services are
handled. Of course, some may disagree.

Jerry Benton

Post by Christopher Meng
I never say newer is better. But the fact is newer things are
appearing more and more now. After doing a searching of each package
ms needed, I found that all these packages have newer version now, and
newer version is now in not only Fedora, but many other distros.
You can enjoy your life with many old systems, like me, also have a
CentOS 5 instance on my server. But I just said I will have a try to
get this famous software borned again in the repos.
I'm just saying, too.
Thanks. I want to package it for Fedora because I also want to package
it for EPEL and because EPEL can be configured on RHEL/CentOS servers.
I don't use Fedora as server OS.
I think EPEL is old enough.
Summary: Guys, please spare me. I just want to package a software, I'm
not trying to start an argument here.
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Christopher Meng

2013-07-12 07:54:29 UTC

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I know I know... I understand your meaning and in fact I always follow
these...... I just said doing a
packaging work for Fedora, thus for EPEL, too.

I cannot only package this into EPEL without Fedora. Guideline may
disallow this.