Important MailScanner List Change

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Important MailScanner List Change - Please Read

Jerry Benton

2015-04-01 06:18:37 UTC

I have the new mailman server setup for MailScanner. However, the member list is 15 years old and you would not believe the number of bounces it had today when the system inadvertently sent out reminder emails today. The DNS for the mailscanner.info domain will flip today, so the new mailman server will be available in 24 to 48 hours after that. I am removing EVERYONE. I know it sucks, but I’ll be damned if I am going to spend 60 hours parsing these logs and manually removing the bad addresses.

Please go sign up again in 24 hours or so. If this lists page is not a pretty Bootstrap 3 looking page, then you are on the wrong server. The new server should resolve to 166.78.111.245. There list server is here:

http://lists.mailscanner.info/listinfo/mailscanner

I have transferred over the archives, so they are all still available. Again, I can’t spend my whole life parsing these logs for bad emails. Apologies.

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Martin Hepworth

2015-04-01 10:33:16 UTC

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Jerry
cant you just turn on the Bounce prcessing and let mailman remove all the
bad addresses?
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Post by Jerry Benton
I have the new mailman server setup for MailScanner. However, the member
list is 15 years old and you would not believe the number of bounces it had
today when the system inadvertently sent out reminder emails today. The DNS
for the mailscanner.info domain will flip today, so the new mailman
server will be available in 24 to 48 hours after that. I am removing
EVERYONE. I know it sucks, but Iâll be damned if I am going to spend 60
hours parsing these logs and manually removing the bad addresses.
Please go sign up again in 24 hours or so. If this lists page is not a
pretty Bootstrap 3 looking page, then you are on the wrong server. The new
http://lists.mailscanner.info/listinfo/mailscanner
I have transferred over the archives, so they are all still available.
Again, I canât spend my whole life parsing these logs for bad emails.
Apologies.
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Barry Callahan

2015-04-01 13:38:27 UTC

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Post by Martin Hepworth
Jerry
cant you just turn on the Bounce prcessing and let mailman remove all
the bad addresses?

Problem is, not all mailservers bounce messages in a way that mailman
can't parse.

Sure, most mailservers are probably set up with sane,
standards-compliant bounce messages... But "most mailservers" may not
accurately represent "most mailservers hosting addresses for subscribers
to this list"

Mark Sapiro

2015-04-01 14:38:05 UTC

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Post by Barry Callahan
Problem is, not all mailservers bounce messages in a way that mailman
can't parse.

We (Mailman developers) go to a lot of trouble to be able to parse every
form of DSN we've ever seen. We recognize multiple dozens. See
<http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/files/head:/tests/bounces/>
for a sample of what we recognize.

In addition, Mailman has a VERP capability that allows determining a
bouncing user without parsing the message (which is still parsed to
determine if it is a temp fail).

We can't do anything about MTAs that don't report to the envelope
sender, but otherwise, if you have a DSN that isn't recognized by
Mailman, sanitize it (mung the personal info) and report it at
<https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+filebug>, and we'll update our
recognizers.
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Paul Kelly :: Blacknight

2015-04-01 15:48:45 UTC

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Bounce management is on now.

All the NDRs for the last 24 hours were sorted, uniqued and removed from the list.

From: "***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>"
Reply-To: MailScanner discussion
Date: Wednesday 1 April 2015 11:33
To: MailScanner discussion
Subject: Re: Important MailScanner List Change - Please Read

Jerry
cant you just turn on the Bounce prcessing and let mailman remove all the bad addresses?
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Martin Hepworth, CISSP
Oxford, UK

On 1 April 2015 at 07:18, Jerry Benton <***@mailborder.com<mailto:***@mailborder.com>> wrote:
I have the new mailman server setup for MailScanner. However, the member list is 15 years old and you would not believe the number of bounces it had today when the system inadvertently sent out reminder emails today. The DNS for the mailscanner.info<http://mailscanner.info> domain will flip today, so the new mailman server will be available in 24 to 48 hours after that. I am removing EVERYONE. I know it sucks, but Iâll be damned if I am going to spend 60 hours parsing these logs and manually removing the bad addresses.

Please go sign up again in 24 hours or so. If this lists page is not a pretty Bootstrap 3 looking page, then you are on the wrong server. The new server should resolve to 166.78.111.245<tel:166.78.111.245>. There list server is here:

http://lists.mailscanner.info/listinfo/mailscanner

I have transferred over the archives, so they are all still available. Again, I canât spend my whole life parsing these logs for bad emails. Apologies.

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John Wilcock

2015-04-02 07:08:29 UTC

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Post by Paul Kelly :: Blacknight
Bounce management is on now.
All the NDRs for the last 24 hours were sorted, uniqued and removed from the list.

So, do we still need to sign up again? Or is the membership list being
transferred to the new server now?
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Jerry Benton

2015-04-02 07:38:34 UTC

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John,

I will manually add you.

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Post by John Wilcock

Post by Paul Kelly :: Blacknight
Bounce management is on now.
All the NDRs for the last 24 hours were sorted, uniqued and removed from the list.

So, do we still need to sign up again? Or is the membership list being
transferred to the new server now?
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Jerry Benton

2015-04-02 07:39:21 UTC

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And yes, everyone should still go sign up. It should take another 24 hours or so for the DNS to flip. The mailscanner.info domain just transferred about 3 hours ago.

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Post by John Wilcock

Post by Paul Kelly :: Blacknight
Bounce management is on now.
All the NDRs for the last 24 hours were sorted, uniqued and removed from the list.

Paul Kelly :: Blacknight

2015-04-02 09:21:29 UTC

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Jerry Benton

2015-04-02 09:56:17 UTC

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There were over 700 rejections from MX records not being found or valid for the recipients.

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Jerry Benton
www.mailborder.com

Post by Paul Kelly :: Blacknight
You realise the DNS could simply have been updated? Julian has full control over this in his Control panel … just saying :)

Post by Jerry Benton
And yes, everyone should still go sign up. It should take another 24 hours or so for the DNS to flip. The mailscanner.info domain just transferred about 3 hours ago.
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Jerry Benton
www.mailborder.com

Post by John Wilcock

Post by Paul Kelly :: Blacknight
Bounce management is on now.
All the NDRs for the last 24 hours were sorted, uniqued and removed from the list.

Jason Ede

2015-04-02 09:26:33 UTC

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When I follow the link or IP address I get a page not found...

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: mailscanner-***@lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:mailscanner-***@lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Jerry Benton
Sent: 02 April 2015 08:39
To: MailScanner discussion
Subject: Re: Important MailScanner List Change - Please Read

And yes, everyone should still go sign up. It should take another 24 hours or so for the DNS to flip. The mailscanner.info domain just transferred about 3 hours ago.

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Jerry Benton
www.mailborder.com

Post by John Wilcock

Post by Paul Kelly :: Blacknight
Bounce management is on now.
All the NDRs for the last 24 hours were sorted, uniqued and removed from the list.

Jerry Benton

2015-04-02 09:55:25 UTC

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DNS has not propagated yet. Patience grasshopper ….

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Jerry Benton
www.mailborder.com

Post by Jason Ede
When I follow the link or IP address I get a page not found...
Jason
-----Original Message-----
Sent: 02 April 2015 08:39
To: MailScanner discussion
Subject: Re: Important MailScanner List Change - Please Read
And yes, everyone should still go sign up. It should take another 24 hours or so for the DNS to flip. The mailscanner.info domain just transferred about 3 hours ago.
-
Jerry Benton
www.mailborder.com

Post by John Wilcock

Post by Paul Kelly :: Blacknight
Bounce management is on now.
All the NDRs for the last 24 hours were sorted, uniqued and removed from the list.

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